Heinze and torres to anfield?

keano · Heinze and torres to anfield?

according to articles from the sun and the mirror liverpool are eyeing up a £5m swoop for him

i'd hate to see of our current team go to another premiership side especially liverpool
is £5m enough for him? i value him at, at least £8-9m

and i also just read on bbc.co.uk that they (liverpool) are also on the verge of signing torres for around £26.5m

with luis garcia going to athletico for £4.5m

Danaldinho

I Seen That In The Daily Mirror Too This Morning

I Dont Know If Its True Or Not, But It Could Be

And I Wouldnt Think That He Would Want To Go To Our Rivals Too

But I Aswell Think That £5 Million Is Not Enough And Could Get More

keano

what do u think of the possablilty of torres goin there? i was abit shocked to be honest

here's the article from bbc.co.uk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6239286.stm

Danaldinho

Well I'm Not Sure Really

I Know He Loves That Club, So He Does Probably Want To Move Their

But It Would Be Good To See Him In The Prem And At Another Team

What Does Anyone Else Think About It

keano

just fount this on manutd.com

Gabriel Heinze concedes he could leave Old Trafford, but it will take interest from a huge club to convince him to give up his 'perfect' life in Manchester.

The popular Argentinian defender has been linked with the Old Trafford exit door since the emergence of Patrice Evra as first-choice left back last season.

A host of top European clubs have been tipped to move for the combative 29-year-old, while surprise tabloid headlines over the weekend credited Liverpool with an interest.

"I already play for one super club and other ones such as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus have been mentioned," Heinze is quoted as saying in the Manchester Evening News.

"For me to go the offer has to be good for everyone. I'm very comfortable in Manchester. I've been a champion, captain and the fans love me. Everything is perfect."

Gaby is currently on international duty in Venezuela as Argentina endeavour to reclaim the Copa America, and he is currently devoting all his attention to that goal rather than a prospective transfer

what do you guys think?

Van_Der_Sar

Noo

Heinze Is As Very Good Player For Us

babsly

all my mates at school who support liverpool are skitting me about them signing him soon

but i just say we have nani and anderson lol

NoOnAn-2k7

This is terrable news to see a brilliant defender like heinze going but to see him going to the scousers makes it worse.

keano

from football365.com

Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed that Gabriel Heinze wants to leave Manchester United.

Heinze has been linked with a summer move after losing his regular left-back slot to Patrice Evra last season.

The Argentinian has been courted by Liverpool, Newcastle United, Real Madrid and Barcelona, although Ferguson has yet to receive a firm bid.

However, the Red Devils manager acknowledged that Heinze is hoping to secure a transfer before the start of the season.

"Gaby's agent has advised us that he wants to move on," said Ferguson.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2502005,00.html

its a shame, i really like him, but there no point him being here if he wants to leave

Danaldinho

Well I Dont Think Fegie Will Let Him Go To Liverpool

NoOnAn-2k7

he better not!! lol

keano

he knows mascherano, that may sway him if an offer is made

200 posts

NoOnAn-2k7

well done!
yeah it could but if wants to win trophys hed come to us.
lol

keano

from football365.com

LIVERPOOL CAN SIGN HEINZE FOR £6m
The Sun says that Gabriel Heinze can become the first player to move between ManYoo and Liverpool in, erm...ages, for £6m.

Describing concerns that ManYoo would block the move in the past tense, the newspaper claims: 'Heinze has been told by United chiefs he can join any club he wishes as long as they come up with that magic figure.

'Old Trafford boss Alex Ferguson has already spent £50m and plans to splash out almost half as much again for Carlos Tevez. He knows he must recoup some of that cash - and Heinze is a realistic way of doing that.'

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_2542107,00.html

guess he could move to liverpool then

Angelcity7

Great everyone is going to move.
I hope that the players instead of them are good and have better skills to play for the season.
I dont know but im seeing many changes in the team everytime a player is going to another team.

keano

Angelcity7

So only richardson moved...yeah he wasnt really in the team. {normal team}.
Oh thats good to hear that the team it going to be much stronger we need a strong team.

Thx for telling me.

{Lets try to stay on the topic know because we went off topic}

keano

just a quick thing to say to angelcity7 (not in a patronising way just to help you out)

know is pronounced no
now is the word your looking for

so would you prefer it if heinze left? (back to the topic lol)

Angelcity7

Oh lool Thx i didnt really now the diffrence. thx for the help

(On topic again and try to stay on topic)

I dont now exactly but i like him playing he isnt one of the best but he isnt that bad after all.

Danaldinho

I Prefer To Play Evra As Uniteds Left Back

Dont Forget Theres Still Silvestre

keano

Angelcity7

New news on Heinze
Gabriel Heinze won't commit the greatest mistake of his life: he won't join Liverpool.

The Argentinian left-back could have bought out himself from his contract but did not notice the club of this intention within 15 days from the end of the season, therefore now United decide if they wish to sell him.

While the player is apparently keen on a move, Sir Alex Ferguson announced that he won't be allowed to join our friends down the road.

'I can assure you, Liverpool will not be getting Gabriel Heinze. We can put that to bed right now and we have done so. We have had a couple offers for him and we have turned them down.'

As I had written, he should not risk becoming a traitor in the fans' eyes, for he got very much from them. And, apart from these emotional factors, I still do not understand why he wanted to join a team that's got two left-backs and a manager who is famous for his adoration for the rotation.

Fergie claimed that Heinze's agent had been working on a transfer in the past 18 (!) months which is frankly astonishing - did Gaby really want away in his second season when he was out injured? Difficult to imagine but shows how football agents work these days.

However, our old Scot does not wish to discuss these things via an agent and confirmed that he wishes to speak with Heinze as soon as the defender is back from his extended leave.
http://www.manchesterunited.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=74076

(so i guess he isnt going to leave till now)

Danaldinho

Im Glad Hes Not Going To Join Liverpool

Angelcity7

Yeap even me i dont want him to leave manchester united he isnt a bad player. And sure good news that he isnt going with liverPool

keano

from bbc.co.uk

Gabriel Heinze will have to defy Sir Alex Ferguson to secure a £7m move from Manchester United to Liverpool.

Liverpool have met the fee that would secure the 29-year-old Argentine defender's release - stated in a letter from United to Heinze's agent.

Ferguson, however, has insisted Heinze would not be sold to their arch-rivals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6900545.stm

i don't think fergie will let him go there

JonnyJ

Angelcity7

Well thats better he is not going with liverpool.

keano

i really want him to stay

Angelcity7

Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez has confirmed the club's lawyers are working on forcing through a deal for Manchester United defender Gabriel Heinze after his initial bid for the player was rejected.

Recent speculation has linked the Reds with an offer in the region of £7million for the Argentina full-back, but any move appeared to have been ruled out by United boss Sir Alex Ferguson.

But Benitez has refused to back down in his pursuit of the 29-year-old and has revealed: 'We made an offer which they rejected.

'The lawyers are now working on it and so we have to wait. He's a good player.'

Ferguson last week poured scorn on any suggestion he might allow the former Paris St Germain player to leave for his club's bitterest rivals.

He said: 'I can assure you, Liverpool will not be getting Gabriel Heinze.

'We can put that to bed right now and we have done so. We have had a couple offers for him and we have turned them down.'

It later emerged that Heinze had a letter signed by chief executive David Gill promising he could leave if United received a big in excess of £6million - a figure Benitez is thought to have topped.

His representatives were reported to be considering legal action to push through the controversial deal - the first between the two clubs since Phil Chisnall moved to Anfield in 1964 - and it appears the Reds are also now willing to go to court to get their man.
{ttp://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?in_article_id=58303&in_page_id=43&ito=newsnow}

I cant understand why are they doing all this panic on this player,and if Fergie dont want to sell him why are they forcing him ?

keano

i read somewhere that he can buy himself out of his contract

Angelcity7

Buy himself like he decide were to go?

keano

Angelcity7

Good so if fergie dont let him go to liverpool he will stay with manchester.

keano

from teamtalk.com

Manchester United defender and Liverpool target Gabriel Heinze is taking legal advice to try and secure his release from Old Trafford.

The Argentina international's representatives have employed a firm of lawyers to see if they can help resolve the ongoing dispute.

Liverpool are keen to sign the full-back but United insist he will not be sold to their fierce Premier League rivals.

However, it emerged recently that the player has a letter signed by United chief executive David Gill claiming he would be free to leave if a £6million bid was received - a figure Liverpool are thought to have matched.

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_2623104,00.html

i guess he really wants to go

donthered

I think we sould let him go to liverpool. he is a great player but if he wants to go he sould go. Thank you for your time here but we will give you stick from now on

Angelcity7

Its true if he wants to go we better let him go its all waste of time he should let him go.He is a great player but if he doesnt want to stay with manchester he will not play as good as he use to play because he is like bored so he should let him go.

donthered

He won his place back at the end of the season. he would have to fight for his place at liverpool too. How can we suport someone how wants to play for the enermy

Angelcity7

Yeah its true

well we cant hold him...but if he lives and he is not happy there i don't want him back in our team again once he left. Now we see in future time what is going to happen with him.

donthered

I would like to hear him say that he wants to leave not his agent. I just hope he comes back from holiday and says he couldnt play for them.

Angelcity7

Yeah its true better here him say so we conferm that he really wants to go.Well they soon came from there holiday and we hear him say that.Im not really happy that he is going with liverpool as well

But we have great players and if he lives we will still be a great team.

donthered

You are right. I dont think it would change the fact that we are going to win the league. i hope. If he joins liverpool it will make them stonger at the back. but they are still poor up front

Angelcity7

Yeah your 100% right it doesnt make a diffrence to us well its ture w was a good player but theres noting we can do to make him feel confortable at manchester

Lets just hope that win win the leauge with the team that we have now

Angelcity7

Sry for double post but i found some information....

Heinze In Crunch Talks
Newcastle United target Gabriel Heinze is preparing to fly back from his holiday for crunch talks with Manchester United.
The Argentina defender is threatening to take the Mancs to court on the grounds of their refusal to sell him to Liverpool.

Heinze is contracted to United for another two years but the club's chief executive David Gill gave his agent a letter confirming the figure they would be prepared to sell him for, thought to be around the £6million mark.

Liverpool have offered £6.8m, and Newcastle were reported to have topped that with a bid of £7m. An offer neither Man Utd nor the Magpies have confirmed, but Sam Allardyce did say he tried to sign a defender for that figure (£7m) last week ... but he won't say who it was because the move may not be dead.

Gill claims he made it clear the left-back would not be sold to any of their three major domestic rivals - Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal - but has not ruled out Newcastle.

Heinze: "I am on holiday but may return next week and say more. For now I am a United player. But I am not saying anything else."

The paper claims United have offered Real Madrid and Juventus the chance to sign Heinze in a bid to stop him moving to Anfield.

(This thing looks a bit mixed up, now even italian teams want him but I dont think he will go with them i think its more likely to go with an english team}

http://www.newcastleutd-mad.co.uk...adnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=345437

keano

i'd prefer it if he went to the geordies

hopefuly that is correct that they've bidded higher than liverpool

Angelcity7

Yeah better if he goes with them , i dont want him to go with liverpool because they get better with him in the team.

donthered

I would rather he went to Newcastle. There is not many players who have left United and had much success. I think that would be the same if he goes there.

NoOnAn-2k7

if he wants to go then **** him let him go.
back stabber!!!

donthered

I think back stabber is the right name for him. Why go to Liverpool. He might as well go to Leeds they have as much chance of winning the league haha.

NoOnAn-2k7

haha dont speak too soon Dave.

Angelcity7

Its true well he goes were ever he wants i dont really care after he leaves united.
Just wish him luck that he will be happy there.

NoOnAn-2k7

we have better defenders anyway just hope evra doesnt get injured now

donthered

Thats the worry. If we get an injury we will miss him. I would like him to move abroad. When i first saw him play for us it was Rooneys frist game for us. i thought Heinze fitted in as though he had being at united all his life. I allways wish ex players the best but not if they join the enemy

Danaldinho

Dont Forget About Silvestre And Evra

And I Know They Might Not Be Like Heinze, But United Still Have Those

keano

if evra gets injured as a last resort hargreaves can play there like he does for england sometimes

NoOnAn-2k7

yeh but lets all hope that doesnt happen

donthered

Silvestre has to be praised. he picked United over Liverpool. We will cope without Heinze. If Evra plays like last year we will have no worries

NoOnAn-2k7

yeah that well put nieller!
lol

keano

how many seasons do you guys think silvestre has left in him?

not many IMO

donthered

I thought he would leave this year. I never trust him. He plays so well all the game. Then he makes a mistake. And it always costs us

keano

NoOnAn-2k7

hes true red he'll stay for a little while longer [hopefully]

donthered

Barton has had a fight with everyone

keano

yeah i don't think i'd like to work with someone as hostile as he is

NoOnAn-2k7

they should do something about it if it causes players to have doubts about joining their club

keano

i don't think big sam will tolerate any of it at newcastle

NoOnAn-2k7

yeah damn right.

NoOnAn-2k7

sorry for DP but we are going off topic again

Angelcity7

Juventus have made it clear they are hoping to sign Gabriel Heinze from Manchester United.

The Argentine has been at the centre of a tug-of-war between Premier League rivals Manchester United and Liverpool this summer.

Liverpool are determined to bring in Heinze but Sir Alex Ferguson has stressed that he will not sell to another top English club.

The matter is threatening to turn ugly but United would be prepared to let Heinze go overseas.

Juventus have been linked with Heinze for some time and general manager Jean-Claude Blanc has now confirmed his side's interest.

"We'll have to see if something can happen with Heinze," Blanc said in The Daily Mail.

Meanwhile, reports suggest Juve are prepared to offer Manchester United Raffaele Palladino plus cash for Giuseppe Rossi.

Ferguson recently hinted that Rossi could be set to leave Old Trafford and he has attracted the attention of several top clubs

http://home.skysports.com/list.as...itle=Juve+confirm+Heinze+interest

keano

i'd prefer him to go to juve

i hope rossi doesn't go though

NoOnAn-2k7

same here hes going to be savage in years to come!!

Angelcity7

I dont now i dont want him to go with an italian team but.
Well but looks like he is going more with juve they are doing all they can to get him in there team.

keano

from teamtalk.com

Gabriel Heinze held discussions with Sir Alex Ferguson on Monday to resolve the row over his proposed move from Manchester United to Liverpool.

Heinze had pledged to report for duty as ordered by Ferguson and duly arrived at United's Carrington training complex on Monday morning following a brief break after his Copa America campaign with Argentina.

Ferguson was eager to speak with Heinze face-to-face to establish his intentions after blaming the 29-year-old's agent for talking up a move to Liverpool, something United are opposed to.

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_2643401,00.html

so this is actually going to be gabby talking not his agent (which is the way it should be IMO)

Angelcity7

This story is all mixed up...well lets hope we setel it and everything cames to normal with no one liveing

donthered

we cant keep a player that doesnt want to be here. let him go.

Angelcity7

yeap its true he wanted to go now its his bisness to go ...

donthered

I dont want him to go to Liverpool but no one else has come in for him. We could do with the money. just to buy some polish for all the trophys we will win this year lol

Angelcity7

lol yeah for polish lol

well he maybe stay a little longer with united because they didnt say when he is liveing...

donthered

i dont think he wants to tho. i was hopeing he would come back from holiday and say he wants to stay. but he still says he wants to leave. i dont know why. he will be on the bench there too.

Angelcity7

yeah he said it a million time that he wants to live....even i dont now why he was playing good and even his friends did noting to him as far as i now...he got bored i think....

keano

from bbc.co.uk

Gabriel Heinze will take his dispute with Manchester United to a Premier League arbitration panel next week regarding his wish to leave the club.

The Argentine wants to join Liverpool and claims he has a letter from United which would allow him to leave if a club offered a fee of £6.8m.

However, United insist they made it clear Heinze would not be permitted to join one of their title rivals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6912488.stm

NoOnAn-2k7

fcuk him et him go
we dont want the back stabber
hes not that great anyway

donthered

Let him go. we wont notice him gone. He was good but not the best.

Angelcity7

Well at least will going to get some money for him leaving

So its good to go

donthered

yes we would do better with the money than a player who wants to play for the scum

donthered

I have just seen on teletext that Lyon want Heinze. I would prefer him to go there.

Danaldinho

donthered

it would be better if he did go to lyon. He is a good player and i dont want him going to our rivals. He would only make them better

NoOnAn-2k7

let him go backstabber

pedrosa007

Yes i would rather him go to another european team than a english one

keano

same here

i don't think he'll go liverpool now

Angelcity7

Even i dont think he will go to liverpool not they bought good players and there going well with them so they dont really need him i think.

donthered

He cant move to liverpool. He lost his court case. Now he is in no mans land. The only other team that wanted him is Lyon. I think it will mean that we get less for him but he cant move to our rivals

keano

yeah i've read that as well
here the link for the artical on bbc.co.uk

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6954531.stm

donthered

Thats good news. we dont want Liverpool getting stronger.

Angelcity7

well yeah better not of to liverpool....

JonnyJ

Gabriel Heinze has moved and agreed a deal with Real Madrid for £8 million

So its all sorted now

Danaldinho

keano

JonnyJ

yer not a bad price and if united get real madrid in europe, then he will die with all the fans lol

keano

yeah unless its the final then they won't play at OT
but he'll still get alot of stick
especially if we beat them